"Celtic have made an awful start to the CL and this game is a must win for them - they currently lie bottom of Group F and have lost all three games, including a heavy 3-0 defeat to Shakhtar away in their last game. Shakhta's only win came agasint Celtic, and both teams are trying to catch the giants AC Milan and Barcelona.

Domestically, Celtic are heads above anything else in the Scottish Premier League, but the league is very poor. The Scots have won ten out of the twelve games played, and are top of the league. Shakhtar also top the Ukranian Premier League, with ten wins out of eleven games and they have only conceded a miserly four goals!

For me, Celtic may not have the heart and will for this match - they have been rocked by the news that Chris Sutton is out for this game, and Celtic did lose their previous home game 2-3 to Aberdeen. There are some nice odds on the handicap and I'm on Shaktar +0.5 with Betfair [£20 Free Bet] - With no points from three CL games, its a long way back for Celtic, and they may not be motivated enough for this match. The Ukranians will probably still think they have a chance to qualify from Group F -so I think they should be backed with the head start here. " I know a lot of blues are frustrated but we are 3 or 4 players away from being a topside also we probably need about 4 or 5 squad players, but until the board of directors can come up with about 30 million to get them players we have just got to stick with moyes and be patient and hope that we can get a couple of new faces in January we have just got to stay positive. MM i would leave my e-mail address on here but if it all kicks of again i would be in trouble as you know how popular i am with the loveable reds if i could contact you that would be better. I'm not one for complaining that the ref ever cost us a match, I tend to look at our own failings first but in this case I think it's hard not to say Poll cost us any chance of winning that game.

Fair play to the arse, very neat and tidy and accepted a gift of a goal but generally against 10 men, despite a fair bit of possesion, Howard (one top save apart) had little to do.

On the other hand it looked like we had a clear pen turned down then McFadden booked for calling him a cheat, he denies that and when did anyone get sent off for mouthing at the ref, no consistency and once again Poll is the centre of attention, one of EFCs two realistic chances of a pot are gone.

Re our failings, the goal was diabolical, p!ss poor, decent chances created not finished and subs brought on in injury time, I thought should have come on the minute we went behind.

Poll truly is cr@p, appaling show tonight, dismal at Chelsea last Sunday, poor for us v Sheff U (in our favour) and missed stuff again in our favour in the Derby match and of course he brought shame and made England's FA the laughing stocking his biggest ever up in the summer with his three red cards.

His most remarkably bad decision was a Poom save late on from Johnson, a top save were the ball deflected 45 degrees and went behind for a corner, he gave a goal kick. Truly staggering incompetence

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